Natty Bumpercar: Did you just wake up? Are you hungry? Try breakfast. Breakfast is the first meal of the day and some people call it the most important meal of the day. You could have a waffle, you could have some pancakes, you could have some cereal, maybe some fruit, maybe some juice, a little cup of coffee, a little cup of tea. That sounds great as well. No better way to start your day than breakfast. Breakfast today, every day, for you. Evidently it wasn't made. It was never made. Maybe it's being worked on now. I think by the time this episode comes out, one exciting thing is, well finally, we're gonna have a Facebook page for the podcast. Specific to the podcast. Different from the Natty Bumper Car stuff, different from whatever. Are we gonna have a Twitter thing? I don't know. Probably. That makes sense too, right? This is what you're supposed to do. Hey, you have a podcast? Maybe you should do all these other things too. I don't know. No, clearly, honestly, I really don't know. We have another interview today. A very exciting interview that Pig has done. We have another review. Maybe of an actual thing this time. I don't know. We'll see about that. And we also have something that I forgot to do last episode that I'm super excited about. And that is that we are going to actually, we have calls that people, we have a phone number where people can call in and then you leave messages and then we can play them on the podcast and, you know, actually respond to them. The phone number, just in case you want to call in, we have a call and I can tell that you do is 646-847-7976. Again, that is 646-847-7976. Leave us a message and we'll get back to it. I almost promise you. I can't totally promise you, but I can almost promise you. That much I absolutely can do. So, with all that being said, let's go. Let's talk about stuff. Let's talk about junk. Let's talk about whatnot. What, what, whatnot. I can't believe how cold it is outside. Yes, I'm talking about the weather, but only because it's like July and it's almost August and I had a jacket on today. I will say that we were out in the public, in the public, and a woman's actually, who I didn't, didn't even know, said, really? Like she looked at my jacket. I assumed she was looking at my jacket. If she was just looking at me, then that's, I think I should be even sadder and more offended. But she, she kind of looked at me and she went, ugh, really? Like, really? How could you possibly? It's, and I was like, cause it's, there's a chill in the air. And she's like, well, it does feel like fall. And I was like, oh, so it feels like fall when people wear jackets and you're going to judge me. Awesome. This is a great conversation. I was, I was walking into work the other day and I had a giant, uh, uh, uh, giant jacket. And I was like, a drink, like a tea. It was tea from Dunkin' Donuts. And there was, there was a woman walking from down the hall and I was going to, I'm, I'm nice. I'm a gregarious bumper car. And so I'll, I'll say hello or, you know, whatever. And I walk past people. Hello. I'll give them a little point. I don't give them points. I'm like, Ooh, look at you. But I'm like, hello. Like, I just like to be like, how you doing? That's it. I don't say how you doing necessarily. Uh, but I do say hello. I like to greet people. And, uh, I was maybe 20 yards away from her. And she was like, oh, look at you. And I was like, oh, look her. And I had taken a sip from the straw of the tea. And I'll say 10%, a solid 10% of the tea decided to dribble out of my mouth on, like, it was just the right side of my face was just like, brr. And so then I made this like, uh, hunchback of Notre, Notre Dame, uh, kind of cringe. I was just like, ah, stay away. Like, uh, who's the dude from Frankenstein? I, I can't think of his name. Igor. I was very Igor about it. So sheep attention. She walked by and she was like, hello. And I was just like, brr. I couldn't even say hello. I wrecked my own hello because I was so disgusted with myself. And the fact that the liquid that was supposed to be in my mouth was now dribbling down my chin. These are problems that I have. These are, these are social situations are not one of my better things. I think when we come back from the interview, I, I'm going to tell you other social situations that I have failed at miserably lately. Um, because why? Because then I've talked about them and they make me feel better because then you don't have to live through them. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, get ready. It's pigs next interview right now.
Aloysious J. Pig: All right. Hey everybody. It's me. Aloysius J pig. And I'm here for my interview part of my show on the bubba podcast. And we got a really fun dude coming up here today. Uh, I don't know a lot about him. I hope to find out a little bit about him and I hope you find out about a little bit. I got, I got confused. I got excited. I, you know, I get excited on these things. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, we have a fun interview for you. You're going to love it. I swear to pieces. Give it up for if he's on the phone, is he on the phone producer? Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Jonathan. Is it Jonathan? I don't know his name. John. Oh, it's, Oh, Whoa. Whoa. Agro. This dude just jumps in. It's John T. Do people do this? T. Trumba. Trumba?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Close enough. Yeah, sure. Let's say that.
Aloysious J. Pig: I can't, I'm reading the paper. It looks like it says Tom Trouble. John Terubble. Like Bonnie
Natty Bumpercar: T. Rubble. Is that you? That's not your name. Let's see. Everybody. What's so, Hey buddy,
Aloysious J. Pig: how you doing? It's me. Aloysius. Who are you?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): How I'm my name's John Trumbull. It's nice to talk to you. Should I call you Aloysius or should I call you pig? What do you prefer?
Aloysious J. Pig: I mean, people who just met me, that feels like they call me something else. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not
Natty Bumpercar: sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. It feels like they call me some of them either way, honestly. I was going to say it goes one way or the other, but sometimes they call me pig. Sometimes they call me Aloysius.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I think I'll just call you pig for brevity sake. Is that alright?
Natty Bumpercar: I appreciate brevity.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Okay.
Natty Bumpercar: I went to school with a girl named brevity. Oh really? Yes. She didn't talk much. Oh yeah.
Aloysious J. Pig: I see what I did.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): That's a shame.
Aloysious J. Pig: So, John. What, tell me. Who is you? Are you? Anyways.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Well, uh, gosh, I know a certain meantime, he talked about, you know, um, he's always talking about Aliens. Your producer, Natty. Oh, boy. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. But I've known him for about, oh, gosh, six years now. We met through the stand-up comedy world. I've seen you do a date or two with him.
Aloysious J. Pig: Oh, yeah.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): You're a big fan? Oh, absolutely. I mean, he's a very funny guy, a very nice guy.
Natty Bumpercar: No, no. You're not going to win this interview by buttering him up. Nobody's a fan of him.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I mean, he's still nice. I mean, you know, it doesn't change the fact that he's nice. I'm sorry.
Aloysious J. Pig: I got a question. So you met six years ago? So you met when you were 12?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yes, yes. Let me think. I was born in 1972. So, yes, I was 12.
Natty Bumpercar: That's amazing. You've aged like Benjamin Button or something.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah, I'm aging in reverse. So are you nearing the beginning or the end?
Natty Bumpercar: Are you kind of in the middle?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I think I'm in an eternal middle.
Natty Bumpercar: Oh, that should be the name of your comedy album, John, I feel like.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): The eternal middle. The eternal middle. It denotes both my life and my career status.
Natty Bumpercar: Yeah. I think I really, honestly, I mean, if nothing else, we should end this interview right now because I don't think we're going to get better than the eternal middle.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah, we peaked early.
Natty Bumpercar: That should be yours. So do you have a web? You draw, right?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I do draw a bit. Yes, yes.
Aloysious J. Pig: And are you classically trained?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I don't know if I would say classically trained. I went to art school.
Natty Bumpercar: I'm so sorry to hear that.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I know. I know. It's, you know, I was an art major in college and then I came up to New Jersey to go to the Joe Kubert School, which is a school where you learn how to do cartooning for comic books and animation and all that fun stuff.
Aloysious J. Pig: Now, at the… At the Kubert School, was there a little orange dude who could only jump on squeeze?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I never ran into him. I was always expecting to run into him whenever I turned a corner. But no, no, I think he's publicity shy.
Aloysious J. Pig: Now, do you, do you ever, you said you did the comedy. Do you ever do impressions? Could you just whip something up for me?
Natty Bumpercar: What would your impression, if you got into a talk, would Kubert be? I'll be you. You be Kubert. Okay?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Okay.
Natty Bumpercar: This is going to be great. And…
Aloysious J. Pig: Whistle, whistle, my name is John Trombone and I'm walking… Oh, hello.
Natty Bumpercar: What's going on? What's going on? Seriously, I thought we weren't going to get better than the Eternal Middle, but whatever you just did blew that out of the water.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Well, thank you, Peg. I'm very flattered.
Natty Bumpercar: Are you classically trained as a video game character as well?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I think I just imprinted… I think I just imprinted on that from playing it on my Atari 2600 10 million times.
Aloysious J. Pig: Is that really what he sounded like?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I just, I remember the cartoon Profanity coming out of the word balloon out of his head whenever you killed him. And it made a sound something like that. Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. It was, it was something like that. Maybe your producer could find like a sound clip of that and then like dub it in.
Natty Bumpercar: That sounds like work, which I don't know if you've ever listened to my show, but we don't do a lot of it. But you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to get a post-it, a post-it note here. It's a pink post-it note. I'm going to write a Qubit sound insert here. Perfect.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. Maybe you could just, we could just ask people to pause the podcast and then find that sound clip and listen to it themselves and then come back a minute later.
Natty Bumpercar: I like that. I like that.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Maybe that's more practical.
Natty Bumpercar: Okay. Everybody put your fingers on your buttons right now. Push. Oh, wait, don't push them yet. Push them when I say push them. Because if you push them now, you're not going to get the rest of the instructions. But what you're going to do is you're going to go to the Googs and you're going to put in a Q-Bart sound. And then, and then when you finish with that, you come back here and we'll compare notes. I think, I think that's going to work.
Aloysious J. Pig: Yeah.
Natty Bumpercar: All right.
Aloysious J. Pig: So Qubit. So I went to Qubit school.
Natty Bumpercar: Was it like, was it like, like Hogwarts? Did you have a sorting hat or something? Like you're, you're going to draw. You're going to draw Hufflepuff things or whatever. You're going to draw skimpy women or whatever people draw.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Well, you know, they, they did have like the, the cartooning illustration division and then the animation division. So you divide up after, after the first year. So yeah, I guess there was a bit of a sorting hat there. And where did you end up? I did the cartooning illustration.
Aloysious J. Pig: Oh, did you have, was there any, is it called anime? Do they still call it that?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Um, sure. Yeah. As far as I know, it's still called anime.
Natty Bumpercar: You could walk up to a convention if they had anime and you could go like, Hey guys, I anime not be enjoying this or something. I don't know. You take it, run with it. But I just feel like it's there. It's ripe for the picking, you know?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): It's so ripe for the picking. I'm like, I'm afraid to touch it. I think.
Natty Bumpercar: Oh, here's an even better idea.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah.
Natty Bumpercar: You're going to mix anime with, uh, old Westerners. And you're going to have a character named, uh, anime West and you're going to go on, uh, at midnight and it's going to be perfect.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think they're really hurting for guests right now. So, uh, I, I think that's the best career advice I've ever gotten.
Aloysious J. Pig: Hashtag hashtag anime West anime West. Uh, so what do you draw currently?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Um, right now I'm just doing it, uh, more for fun than anything. I, I was, I was doing a thing a couple of years ago, uh, a feature called the line. It is drawn, uh, that runs on cbr.com and actually all the, uh, it used to be comic book resources, but they shortened it up. Um, I don't blame them, but yeah, I'm gonna, uh, I think I'm going to do a guest, uh, a spot on there, uh, next week though. Oh, some more drawing, some more drawing. Yeah. I gotta, gotta work on that this week.
Natty Bumpercar: You're going to give the link to. Uh, to bumps and he's going to put the stuff up so that people know where to find you. Right.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Okay. Well that, that sounds like work, but yes, I'll, I'll give, I'll give the link to bumps. Okay.
Aloysious J. Pig: Okay. Uh, do you have any idea? You can't spill the beans. Any idea what you're drawing, what the team is?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Oh, well, let's see. Um, I think when is this going up pay?
Aloysious J. Pig: Uh, what's today's Wednesday? I would, I would assume.
Natty Bumpercar: You know what? If we're bold, it's going to be up this week by like Friday. But I'm going to, I'm going to guess by like Tuesday.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Then I'm not gonna, I'm not going to spill, uh, I'm not going to spill any secrets. Um, I can, I can let the people know cause they, they, uh, tell you what the theme is for the next week on Friday. If all goes as planned, it should be a thing I started a few years ago called munch week, which deals with one of my favorite TV characters. Um, John munch, the detective that Richard Belzer plays on. Law and order SVU and a hump before that homicide life on the street where we shunk, shunk. Exactly. Exactly.
Natty Bumpercar: I didn't know his name was munch. I was hoping you were going for like a Baron von Munchhausen or, you know, you could do
John T. Trumbull (Guest): that cause it's usually a mashup between characters. So you could have, you know, Sergeant munch meeting Baron von Munchhausen. And that's a great suggestion.
Aloysious J. Pig: You could also, it was just comic con last week.
Natty Bumpercar: So you could, you could be like. Uh, stranger munch, uh, girl, Dr. Who, uh, you know, alpha is coming back. I don't know if that happened.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Exactly. Exactly. You could just mash all those things up together. What's that?
Aloysious J. Pig: Ready player one. You know, it is, I mean, you could do everything. There's all sorts of stuff.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Exactly. Exactly. There's all sorts of comic book stuff. Um, and yeah, just something that, that, uh, we started a few years ago. It's, it's, it's fun. Like with the line is drawn. The, they have, uh, cartoonists draw, uh, according to a different theme every week and people suggest things on Twitter and it's usually like a mashup sort of thing or a gag type of thing. And then the artists pick a suggestion that they like, and then they draw that up. And then every Friday people check and see, it goes up and, and everybody's entertained.
Aloysious J. Pig: Like a, like a gag me with a spoon type of thing. That kind of gag.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Um, sometimes, you know, if it doesn't go over well. Yeah.
Natty Bumpercar: Do you ever do, uh, you should do this. Okay. You go to the beach, right? And your, your, your whole, your, your whole, uh, theme for the week for everybody is a line that is drawn in the sand.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Ooh.
Natty Bumpercar: Yeah. And then people have to make, uh, uh, your arts, uh, but they have to draw it in, in, in, in silica. It's nice. I think.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. That's, that's, that's a nice medium to work in too. I don't know. Are the beaches reopened now? I know the beaches got closed. A few weeks ago.
Natty Bumpercar: I would assume they're open, but I don't know. We don't go down there. I don't, I don't, uh, I don't suntan well. I, I, I suntan delicious, but I don't suntan super well. So yeah. Yeah. I don't feel like I should go to any.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. That's, that's tempting fate, I guess.
Natty Bumpercar: So when you do stand up, does everybody ever come up to you? I don't know. This is a, it's a joke, you know, take it this way, but are they like, oh, this trombone guy, uh, he doesn't draw so well. Cause he's like, people don't come see you. Or do they come see you? How does that work out? And you're like, actually I draw pretty well. And they're like, what do you draw? Well, a bath. And they're like, stop it. Like that type of thing. I don't know.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Uh, you know, you know, I hadn't, I hadn't thought of drawing that parallel before, but you know, me, me being a draw as a, as a standup comic and me being a draw as an artist. Um, I don't know, you know, that I'm running about 50, 50. I, I, I'm just waiting for success in either field.
Natty Bumpercar: Wait, you're running about 50, 50. Would you say that you're, I forgot. And what's the, the inevitable middle. That's not what it was.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Oh, the eternal middle. Yes. Eternal middle.
Natty Bumpercar: You really do run the 50, 50.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I guess so. I guess so. We're discovering so much stuff about me tonight.
Natty Bumpercar: That's why it's because I'm the, I'm a really good interviewer. Like everybody's always just like, I want to be interviewed by pig. He really gets stuff out of people, you know?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. Yeah. It's like you, Howard Stern, Charlie Rose.
Natty Bumpercar: Oh, Pantheon.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. Exactly.
Natty Bumpercar: Walter Cronkite. Yes. He's still really good. I feel.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yes.
Natty Bumpercar: Top of his game.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Absolutely. He's as good as he ever was.
Natty Bumpercar: John Carson. He's really good also.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Uh, you know, not as productive as he used to be, but still great.
Natty Bumpercar: I don't like his first name though. If I'm to be honest, I just, I feel like he could have gone with something better than that.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): It's, it's a ridiculous first name. It's, it's, it's given to like corpses, outdoor toilets, and guys who frequent prostitutes. It's not a good name.
Natty Bumpercar: Don't forget. Of course, this is a kid's show. So these words you're saying, I don't know. I did a bumper commas. Not, I told you that up front, but one, well, at least one of those words, kids look the other way. What just happened? Nothing. Nothing.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): But bumper car, he can work pretty blue though. Don't you think?
Natty Bumpercar: I, I, the only time I see him blue is when he's held the audience, he's going to hold his breath until they laugh and they never do. And so he turns blue in the face. Oh, that poor guy. Yeah. He sees a terrible human being. No one can stand him. He tries though. Does he though? I feel like I, you know, I don't really, does he, maybe, I don't know. He gives the impression of trying. He does good impressions of trying. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He, he waves his hand in front of his face. Then he spins his face around and he looks at the crowd and he's like, this is my impression of trying.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Does he, does he ever do voices around you?
Unknown: No.
Natty Bumpercar: Uh, yeah, he's always, it's, he's, he's like, uh, he's like a gecko, but, but with voices where he's always walking around, is it gecko? Do they change colors? Chameleon.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): He's like, yeah. Do you, do you like his voices?
Natty Bumpercar: Good. Not so much. The kids get very upset. So then I have to listen to them scream at him because I'm not, he'll do a British and he's like, Oh, look at me. I'm a British bumper car or whatever. I can't, I can't do it as well. But then they, they get there. It's like.
Aloysious J. Pig: Stop talking like that. Why do you talk? Stop. Talk like daddy.
Natty Bumpercar: And then he talks like daddy and they, they don't like that either. So they leave the room. So he, it's a no win game.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Do you, do you live with the bumper cars? Yeah. We all live here in headquarters. Of course. I didn't, I didn't realize that you were actually like roommates with. Well, you just like visited a lot. I thought you were buddies. I didn't realize you lived together, bro.
Natty Bumpercar: Well, you're going to get a sweet spot like this in Jersey for free, huh? I mean, There's room included board is include board means food. There's free food. You know, like I hang out here with, with socks, Irving, Irving B socks. There's a robot. There's a, it's a party here really is what it is. It's good fun.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Do you have your own room? Do you have like your own style or something or.
Natty Bumpercar: Yeah, I got a little space. I keep to myself. It's, you know, it's, it's full of hay and slop. It's what I want in life. I feel like I'm living a dream. It's a, I've, I feel like it's a good place to be. And I've, I've moved just, it's past the eternal middle.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Wow. Wow. I, I dream to have that someday, but you know,
Natty Bumpercar: I dream of Jeannie with a light brown hair.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): You've got a lovely singing voice.
Natty Bumpercar: Do you think so? I don't know. Sometimes I just break into the song. It's how I keep myself happy in this cruel, cruel world. Oh boy. Don't get me started. No, seriously. Don't.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Okay.
Natty Bumpercar: Um, so let's see. More about you. Less about me. So you draw, you went to the cube at school. You're doing something for the line is drawn. Uh, I, I, I hired you. You, you do face paint night, not face paint. You do car, car. I can't say it away. Car, car, car, caricatures.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. Do you do them? Uh, yeah, sometimes, sometimes I do like some, some party caricature work. Yes.
Natty Bumpercar: Is that fun or is it terrifying?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Uh, it's a mix of both. It's, it's more fun than terrifying. Most people. People are nice.
Natty Bumpercar: Are you saying it's a melange?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yes. I don't know if I pronounce it. I would say that.
Natty Bumpercar: I don't know what it means, but I feel like it probably pertains, but it sounds really
John T. Trumbull (Guest): nice. It sounds really impressive.
Natty Bumpercar: It does. It sounds like something you could get with dessert. Like I'm going to take the, uh, rutabaga pie with us to, if you could just a little, a
John T. Trumbull (Guest): melange, a little melange on top. Yeah. Yeah.
Natty Bumpercar: And not too much like a whisper, please. I don't want to. Yeah.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I'm watching my way.
Natty Bumpercar: I mean, it is beach. It's the season right now. And beaches are open. A line drawn, a line drawn into sand. So I like to pull everything back together as we go. You're bringing it all together. You're bringing it full circle. I'm like, I'm like, I, I, I don't just interview. I, I crochet as I do. I make a lanyard. I make a friendship bracelet out of my interviews is what I do.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Do you ever quilt? Do you do like any quilting?
Natty Bumpercar: No, I do a little needle point, but I never done no quilting so much.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Okay.
Natty Bumpercar: Yeah. Something. I don't know. I just never got into it. The squares, the, you know, the net one pile toe. I don't, I just can't do that stuff. Nah. Nah. So what do you do? So you draw, do you like, I, we were talking about comic con. I do. Are you like a nine? Like you like pop culture stuff?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Uh, yeah. Yeah. I, I, I do like the pop culture stuff.
Natty Bumpercar: What do you like? What do you get like all excited about?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): What do I get excited about? Let's see. Um, you know, I like, I like. I like a lot of the, the, the shows, the movies. I mean, I'm, I'm a comic book guy. Oh, okay. Cause I like a lot of the comic book movies and the comic book shows. There are a lot of those right now.
Natty Bumpercar: That's what I was wondering. Cause at first you just said, I like the movies and the shows. And I felt that was too broad, but then you pulled it back. So you like comic book stuff. That's fun.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. Yeah. And I actually, one of the other things I do is I write for a magazine called back issue.
Natty Bumpercar: What is that?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): It's, it's all about comic books. Uh, from. From like the seventies, eighties, nineties and up. And it's that, that's the age that's called the bronze age of comic books. And, and we, I tracked down a lot of comic book creators and stuff. And I ask them things like, Hey, why'd you do this thing? 20, 30 years ago. And they'll say, Oh, I don't know. Or leave me alone. Or sometimes they remember stuff. And then they tell me about that. And then I write up an article about that.
Natty Bumpercar: I feel. I feel like they probably could have just skipped over to nineties. I don't know. I feel like.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Well, you know, the magazine is approaching 100 issues. So we've been kind of like inching towards the nineties. Um, so yeah, there's a little bit of 90 stuff going on and there was some good stuff in the nineties. You know, there's some good stuff in every decade.
Natty Bumpercar: Of course. But I feel like your hundredth issue, when you're taught, whenever you get to the nineties, the, the, the cover should just be, uh, uh, die cast foil, uh, cut. Uh, covers. What the what?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yes. Yes. Those were big in the nineties.
Natty Bumpercar: How many, how many of these should I buy? They're all the same thing. Question mark. I don't know.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Were you a big comic fan?
Natty Bumpercar: Well, bumps used to work in a comic book store for like, uh, from when he was 13 to when he was like 18 or 19. So back in the nineties and, uh, used to just come home with long box at the long box of this, of this garbage. And it's all. In the garage currently, which is sad because I don't feel like it's good for humidity wise, but it has been several points. I wanted to get rid of them, but you're going to get pennies on the book. And with the boys, he's like, I will save him and maybe they'll play with them or whatever. Like we've kind of given up on getting any money out of them. But, uh, you know, uh, it's, I don't know, at some point. And the kids are like, Oh, comic books, let's go look at them. And I'm like, Oh, that's the killing joke. You can't look at that book. You're not allowed to, you don't want, no, that's.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): They're not ready for the killing joke yet.
Natty Bumpercar: No, no, no. That's not cute. Funny joker. That's like, Oh no. What have we done? Oh yeah.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): That's nightmares for a few years. Joker. Yeah.
Natty Bumpercar: Yeah. When you're, when you're four year old is, is flipping through, uh, you know, Akira stuff and he's just like, what? Not Akira. I messed it up. Uh, I forgot lone wolf and cub. It's a little bloody, even though it's black and white, uh, you know, it's still, it's, it's a bit of an eye opener.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. Yeah. I never wear red lone wolf and cub. I, I, I, I enjoyed it.
Natty Bumpercar: I, I, the, just the, the, the, the, the line quality and just, uh, it had, it had some, it was nice. It was a nice quiet moments and it was a nice long journeys. I remember, I mean, it's been 20 years since I read it, so I don't really, but I, since he read it, I, I get confused.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): What did you read it together?
Natty Bumpercar: He would point to it sometimes, but then I would fall asleep is really, I didn't want to say it, but I'm. I'm not the most literate pig, if I'm going to be honest.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Okay. Okay.
Natty Bumpercar: Yeah. I like the pretty colors. Uh, I like the pictures.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Wasn't that a black and white book?
Natty Bumpercar: I mean, I like the pictures. You kind of caught me out there a little bit. We just established that it was black and white.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): So yeah, you know, it's true. That's true. What you just did. So maybe that's why you didn't enjoy it very much. Cause there weren't any of the colors that you like.
Natty Bumpercar: I liked, uh, what was that other one with the rabbit?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Uh, yo Jim, yo, yo, oh, uh, uh, you can say you Jimbo Jimbo.
Natty Bumpercar: I knew it was something like that. Yeah. I think that might've been black and white too.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): It's a stance of Kai. I think it's black and white. Honestly, I'm, I'm not sure.
Natty Bumpercar: Did you ever read, uh, this is, this is newer, but it's, it's called bone.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Uh, yeah, I like bone. It's so good. That that's really good. I've got a nice, there, there's a nice big collection of all of bone. It's like the complete bone.
Aloysious J. Pig: Oh yeah. We got that.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): It's really, it's a, it's giant, ginormous. I think there was like a color collection and a black and white collection of that.
Aloysious J. Pig: Oh really?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Trying to remember which I had. I think I have the black and white collection. I haven't looked at it in a while. See? You're going to have to pull that off the shelf when we're done talking.
Natty Bumpercar: See, look at you. I'm, I'm, I'm help. I'm bringing it up. I'm, I'm bringing it out.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. Yeah. But that, that was a good book. Jeff Smith, very talented guy.
Aloysious J. Pig: Did he ever do anything after that?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): He did a few things. He did, um, uh, he did a Captain Marvel thing. The, the DC Shazam Captain Marvel, uh, called Monster Society of Evil. Um, I bet I could dig that up and maybe lend that to, uh, to Natty. And then you could, you could flip through it if you're inclined. I would love. Um, and he's done a few other things and I'm blanking on the other things. And I'm probably going to think of them as soon as we're done talking.
Natty Bumpercar: That's fine. Well, I'm, I'm sure we'll see each other again soon. So.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah.
Natty Bumpercar: That Captain Marvel thing has always been the most confusing thing ever because you got Carol Danvers. Yeah. And then you, you know, do you got. You got the dude with the, the, the, the daisy on his, on his shirt there. And you're like, it was Captain Marvel anyway.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Well, it, it, it does get complicated. There was like, you know, there was the guy with the lightning bolt on his chest, you know, and the red and the yellow, he was the original Captain Marvel. And then. He was owned by Fawcett Comics or something, right? Right. And then he, and then like, there was a lawsuit between, uh, DC and Fawcett because they thought he was like too close to Superman. And eventually they stopped publishing Captain Marvel and then the name was up for grabs and there were a couple other Captain Marvels and then Marvel Comics was like, Hey, we should have a Captain Marvel because we're Marvel Comics. And they've had like a few different Captain Marvels because whenever one character goes away, they have to do another character to hang on to the name. Oh, I didn't know that. And that's, and that's why everybody thinks that the DC Captain Marvel's name is Shazam because they can't use the name Captain Marvel on the comics. When in fact he just says the word Shazam. He says the word Shazam. Well, they, they changed it a bit. Like now, now DC is saying like his name is Shazam and he also says Shazam. Uh, and, but he has to say it with conviction to, to transform it. It's getting complicated, but he's still Captain Marvel as far as I'm concerned.
Natty Bumpercar: You ever hear that? Uh, I was going to say it is a, is a Kevin Garifo joke. Every time you say it's complicated. Complicated. It reminds me of it.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Really? What, what's, what's, what's the Kevin Garifo joke? I'm not.
Natty Bumpercar: He goes, he goes, he goes, I changed my Facebook status to, uh, it's complicated with Tom Brady or something like that.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Oh yes. Yes. I remember that joke.
Natty Bumpercar: I don't, I don't really know what it means, but I always got a kick out of it. I don't know.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I don't know if that's still in his act or not.
Natty Bumpercar: I don't know. I would assume so. I don't know.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I don't know. I don't know. I like tracking the changes in Kevin Garifo.
Natty Bumpercar: Well, I like it in anybody. I don't want to single him out because I don't want him to beat me up, but like, uh, pretty much.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I think you can take him pig.
Natty Bumpercar: I mean, I am pretty squirrely for a pig if I'm going to be honest.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. You're a tough guy. I think you can take him. You hear that Garifo?
Natty Bumpercar: I'm coming for you. I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm coming for you. Oh, we could do like a wrestling promo. Listen up, Kevin Garifo of the Shining Wizards podcast.
Aloysious J. Pig: Yeah. I think you've got it. But you don't got it because I took it when you wasn't looking.
Natty Bumpercar: So you better understand that pig is going to take you down a peg or two, my friend. That's how they do it in the wrestling world.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. Can you smell what the pig is cooking?
Natty Bumpercar: Oh, that was, I think that might be copyright. And I don't know. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. This cooking is a chef. This is, I don't know how to work. I'm fine. I'm going to, Hey, can we isolate? That last thing? I want to send it to Garifo to freak him out. He's going to be like, I keep asking him to be, I want to say, can I be in your podcast? And he's like, no, you're a pig. And I'm like, bro, don't be like that.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): You know, you need a podcast crossover. You need to do this cross promotion thing. That's that's everybody loves crossovers. CW. That's all they do. That's right. And you know, the, the Marvel movies, they're crossing over all over the place. Everybody's fighting everybody else.
Natty Bumpercar: How do you say that dude's name? Is it Kevin Fage? Fahey? Fahey, I think. Fahey. Fahey. It wasn't, he was talking about like, uh, these are going to bring our, uh, our, our movies to a close for a version for, for step one. And there's like 30 movies or something. It's insanity. It's just too much.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. And if, if you miss one, then you're screwed.
Natty Bumpercar: You can't, yeah, you're doomed. Like, what are you going to do? You can't go back.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): No, no.
Natty Bumpercar: I will say I saw that Spider-Man. It was, I enjoyed it very much. Did you? Yeah, I liked that one too. It was, it was loose and it was fun and it started off with a little, you know, the little personal movie thing and, and the last line of the movie got a little chuckle out of me. It was, it was good. It was good. I liked it.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah, it was good. I enjoyed that. That was well done.
Aloysious J. Pig: Well, hey, you know what, buddy? I'm tired. I got to go tonight. I got to go to sleep, you know?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Oh, okay.
Aloysious J. Pig: But I've had, did you have fun on the show?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I did. I did. It was good talking.
Natty Bumpercar: I feel like we really, you know, we, uh, we plumbed some. We plumbed some depths. We covered a lot of ground. We did. We, we've talked about a lot of things and stuff, but was there anything in particular? So you said you was writing this, you're doing the line is drawn. I know that's coming out. Yeah. Is there any like certain stories that are coming out or anything that you want to push?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): There's, there's a, there's a thing with the magazine I mentioned before, back issue, um, issue 99, it's come out in August and we're, we're talking all about Batman, the animated series.
Aloysious J. Pig: Oh, that's a good show.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Cause yeah, it's the 25th anniversary of Batman, the animated series. And I wrote a couple of articles on the issue there. I did a whole big oral history of Batman, the animated series. I talked to a lot of people behind it. I talked to Bruce, Tim and, uh, Paul Dini and Alan Burnett and Kevin Conroy, who was the voice of Batman. Wow. Um, and, uh, I did a, I did a history of Harley Quinn article and we got other articles about the comic books. Um, about, uh, Mike Parabellum. Mike Parabellum, who, who drew a lot of the Batman animated comics and it's, it's going to be really cool. The whole issue is about it. It's like 84 pages. Wow. All about Batman. So if you're, if you're a fan of that show, um, you should pick it up. You can order it at, uh, two morrows.com and that's T W O M O R R O W S.
Natty Bumpercar: You just forgot how to spell tomorrow is what just happened. I saw it.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I did. Was that too much of a part? Was in the middle of the word there?
Natty Bumpercar: No, I could see some smoke coming out of your ears.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yeah. I was actually like sketching out the, the words in, in the air. As I was saying that it was, it was sad.
Natty Bumpercar: Well, so wait, here's the last fun fact. It's a question, but you can say yes or no. Wasn't Harley Quinn invented just for that show?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Yes.
Aloysious J. Pig: Oh, look at that. So can they also get this back issue thing at like a comic book store?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): Uh, yes. It, you can, you can get it in most comic stores. If not, you can ask them to order it for them. For you from previews. And yeah, they should be able to do that for you.
Aloysious J. Pig: Phenomenal. All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, this has been John Trumbull. Or as I like to say, after the whole wrestling thing, let's get ready to, I messed it up. Let's get ready to rumble.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I think that's also copyrighted. I think.
Aloysious J. Pig: Oh, really?
John T. Trumbull (Guest): I think we, you know, we're, we're going to get in trouble for the, can you smell what, what pig is cooking? And I think you can get in trouble for that.
Natty Bumpercar: All right. Well, you know what? This might be the last show. Then we're going to give it to the lawyers. They're going to suss it out. They're going to figure it out. It's going to be fine.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): And we can sue that big business now.
Natty Bumpercar: I got no, I got nothing. I got to come at me, bro. I got nothing. I'm a very poor pig. Uh, but John, thanks so much for being on the show. I super appreciate it. Thank you, pig. Hope to see you soon, buddy.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): It was nice talking to you.
Aloysious J. Pig: All right. Click.
John T. Trumbull (Guest): No.
Natty Bumpercar: All right. Wow. That was a great. Wow. That was a really good interview. I was actually surprised at how good. That interview was compared to a lot of interviews. Like he asked, pig asked questions. Pig actually got to the root of things. Pig got to the bottom of things. I feel like, uh, the, the, the, the John Trumbull was like an onion and pig just kept pulling it back. Just layer after leave after whatever onion bit, onion bit after onion bit. Uh, so good job to pig. So I was going to tell you guys about the, um, socially awkward, uh, stuff that I've been doing lately, which is great. It involves handshaking. And, uh, there was a guy. Uh, because I was talking about the woman and I had the tea and everything. So this is a, a, a, a dad, a friend of mine, kids, dad that I'm pals with now. And when we were at, we were at the pool, we were having a conversation and, uh, we, you know, like, Hey, get a little handshake. Goodbye. We'll see you later. And then he kind of sat back down cause they were, they're at the table eating. And, uh, I gave it, it gave his wife a hug over here. And then I had already shaken, shooken his hand, shooked his hand. And then I patted him on the head. When I turned to leave and I was just like, Ooh, why would I do that? Why would I pat somebody on the head? It was the weirdest thing. Like it just didn't make any sense. And so now he has that over me. Like he brings it up. Hey, Hey, remember when you patted me on the head type thing? And I'm just like, ah, yes, yes, I do remember. And then, so he and I were standing, uh, there one day we're getting at the pool. A lot of stuff happens at the pool, evidently. Uh, and, um, this person came up and I, I gave them like a handshake, right? I grabbed his hand, shake his hand, which is normal. But then I used my left hand and I cupped his hand in my hand. And then it was like, I was asking him to vote for me. If it was like, I was just like, Hey, you know, this day at the pool, I need you to do something for me. Okay. And he, and he was, he was watching. Cause I guess he's now cognizant, uh, that I'm, that I'm, uh, socially awkward. And he, as soon as he came up to me, I was like, Oh my God. He was just like, that was your handshake. And I was just like, I don't know what happened either because I knew that something weird had happened. And like, just like time after time, after time, after time, after time, uh, these weird handshakes keep happening to the point now where I'm going to become agoraphobic. I'm going to get to the point in life where all I do is I sit here in the studio, in the lab at headquarters and record podcasts, which is going to be no good for anyone. Because if I don't go out in the world, I don't have any funny stories. I have a great imagination. Sure. But it, it, it only extends to a certain amount. So I don't know what to do. I'm at a loss. I'm, I'm at a point in life right now where, uh, when I interact with people, strange things happen. Uh, and when I sit at home, I just get really bored. But speaking of not being bored, this is time for the next new segment that we have for the bumper podcast. We did the intro. We did the interview. Uh, I don't think we're, I don't know if we're going to do all the other ones because we're already at like 40 minutes, but this is, uh, the, uh, the call-in segment. And I think today we have two phone calls. And, uh, so I guess what we'll do is I'll play the calls that people called in and, and then I'll respond to the calls and, and then we'll go from there. It's so fun. Like people actually called my phone number. So, uh, let's see if I can, ah, nope, nope, nope. Wrong number. Wrong button. Not wrong number. Um, how do I fix this? Stop. I want to get to the phone calls. How do I get to the phone calls? How do I get to the phone calls? What do I press? Okay. That's gone. Thank goodness. Okay. I think that was the wrong button. Now we're going to try the right button and there we go.
Unknown: Hi, Maddie. This is Dennis. Hope all is well. I'm at the Metium. Wanted to provide you some premium content. Hope all is well. And say hi to Pigs.
Natty Bumpercar: Okay. Uh, thanks, Dennis. Um, for providing me with some premium content. That's, that's fine. That's our first call ever. Uh, and I, I, I felt like I had to play that one since it was the first one to come in. Um, he said hi to Pig, which Pig will love. I got a hi. Pig got a hi. So there were two hellos there, which is, which is nice. I think probably a better way to go in the future, and I am not going to not, but is to ask a question. Because then I can actually answer anything. But for now, I can just be like, hey, Dennis, thanks for calling. I appreciate you listening and I appreciate you calling. And Pig, whenever he wakes up here today, is going to be beside himself thrilled that he now has, uh, a friend named Dennis. And I don't know if you're his friend or if you were just kind of, it didn't really sound that aggressive. It didn't sound like you were like, and tell Pig I said hello. You didn't really sound like that at all. Uh, you more just. You were just like, hey, tell, tell Pig I said hi. Here's some premium content. So, uh, thank you again, Dennis. Uh, let's see if we can go to our second call of the day and go.
Unknown: Hi, Maddie. I was just calling to ask a question. Um, that question is what are your comedy influencers? Which comedians influence you the most? All right. Thanks.
Natty Bumpercar: Wow. All right. That second caller got it, got it right. I got a, uh, let's see a question, a question. I probably should have listened to that before. Uh, so my comedy influencers, I'm, I'm weird. Uh, I, growing up, uh, when I started doing comedy in college and I didn't really have, I, I loved Howie Mandel growing up, which was always weird to me. He put a glove on his head. And that was hilarious. To me. Look at that. His glove. He does funny voices. Um, I didn't, I, I mean, uh, I didn't, I guess I, I mean, people love Richard Pryor and, uh, they love, I did like Woody Allen and, uh, uh, well, that's not the name I was trying to think of. Uh, who is the other guy? I mean, even back, you know, uh, Carlin, that's the name I was trying to think of George Carlin, but I never grown up. I never watched like comedy specials. I watched Eddie Murphy growing up. Cause it was kind of ubiquitous. It was everywhere. Uh, and I enjoyed the command that he had in the crowd, the material. I was just like, ah, it's terrifying. But then he'd be like, I got some ice cream. And I was just like, okay, that's funny stuff. But I, I didn't, I didn't really even know comedy was a thing. Like, I didn't know that you could go out and do it. I didn't understand that. Uh, and then I went to college and, um, I had never seen, uh, I'd never even heard of really the, the Marx brothers. Uh, I, I, I probably maybe had heard of Charlie Chaplin, but I mean, I did hear, I guess maybe about Mickey Mouse and Charlie Chaplin, that whole thing. And, but I didn't know what Charlie Chaplin was, but then I get to college and I don't know how I even found stuff. But I think I was just like, I found out that in the library, uh, upstairs, the top floor, there was a place you could watch old movies and you just would go in, you'd have your own little, uh, television and you could say, ah, I want to watch this. I want to watch that. And like you could, there was everything like all this, it was a whole new world. It was so cool. And I, uh, so I would go in and I would just watch all these Marx brothers movies. And then I would watch all these Chaplin movies and then, uh, Buster Keaton movies. I never really did Howard, Harold Lloyd, uh, who was another big guy back then. Uh, but I would just watch these and I was just amazed that these, especially like, just that this stuff existed and that these people were making, I don't know. There was something about the internet. There was some energy of it and everything. And I really, uh, glommed onto it. And then I started reading like their, uh, uh, biographies, I think maybe a couple of autobiographies and just to find out about these people. And it kind of really deepened the connection that I felt like to these people. Um, I don't know. And it's so, it's, so it's weird. And then especially in college, I never watched comedy because like I, there was, I didn't have HBO. I had access to these really old things. We didn't have anything, access to any contemporary. Uh, there was no comedy club in Athens. Uh, I was the, uh, president of the UGA standup comedy club. And, um, so I got to hang out with a lot of comedians and I got to watch that, but I never took a class or learned like in a good way. Um, and I feel like, and so like lately though, I've tried to watch more comedy, uh, specials so that I can, as it is, it's just learning. You're learning structure. You're learning cadence. You're learning timing. Uh, just to see how other people do it, to get the reactions that they get. Cause then you can see like, okay, he's slow playing a joke. Oh, he's burning through stuff. He's going fast through stuff. Um, oh no, we have a guest here. Did you want to talk or do you just want him to scare me? He really freaked me out when you poked me in the back because I couldn't hear you. Um, I'm almost, you know what? This is a really great question and I feel like I'm going to come back to it and answer it again. I so appreciate you guys calling. And I'm going to give this a go. I'm going to give this one more thought though, because it's such a good question and it makes me happy to talk about this stuff. Um, so I'm going to come back to this, but for now, are you sure you don't want to say anything? We're at the end of the episode. Okay. Did you have a good weekend? What'd you do? You went to the pool. Did daddy shake somebody's hand strangely? Oh, he probably did.
Aloysious J. Pig: Yeah.
Natty Bumpercar: Oh, did you get dressed already? By yourself? What are you? What are you? Are you some sort of big boy or something?
Unknown: No.
Natty Bumpercar: Yeah. What are you like? Hey, you 17 years old, 18 years old, huh?
Unknown: Seven.
Natty Bumpercar: You're going to ship you off pretty soon, man. I'm seven. You're seven? Teen? No. Uh, so you went to the pool. What else you did? I felt like you did something else pretty exciting. Um, we went to, um, a hiking place. You went to a hiking place. Do you remember what it was called? Uh-uh.
Unknown: It had a funny name. Ramapo. Ramapo? Ramapo. Ramapo. Ramap- Is it either Ramapo? Ramapo. Ramapo. I think it's Ramapo. Ramapapapapo. What if you put a lot of papapapapo at the end of it? It would sound like an engine. Yeah. Ready, guys? You put the key in, and then you turn it, and it goes, ramapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapa.
Natty Bumpercar: Nothing? Nothing. Nothing. Okay, that's fine. All right, well, can you say goodbye to everybody? Bye-bye. All right, Bumper Podcast. This has been Natty Bumper Car, Episode 301, Interview with John Trumbull. Check the place for the links. You're going to go find some fun stuff. And thank you to the people who called into the show. Your phone number to call is 646-847-7976. You call in. You leave a message, preferably a question. And then we answer the question on future episodes. Future episodes, we've got more stuff to review. I mean, like, it's crazy. We haven't even had any of our friends come by lately. They came by and said thanks and hi and whatever last episode. But, like, where's Pig? Where's Rufus D. Rufus? Where's Robot? Where's Doodle Poodle? I don't know. I'm sure they'll come by soon. So, you know what? I think that that's…
